• azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    Like if people actually cared that a Windows version goes EoL. That literally means nothing to most people and typical PC user won’t even notice anything until something will functionally break, which will take YEARS after it’s EoL.

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      7 hours ago

      I do some e-wasting for a number of big companies and have piles of old laptops. I’ve taken to giving the laptops to people that need computers and the ones with Linux don’t taken. I literally can’t give away Linux computers. They can buy their own windows licenses.

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    I’ll go Linux when I don’t need any more windows based software, and there’s been almost 0 progress made in that sector in the last 5 years.

    Between games that don’t run on Linux (Apex, CoD, any other shooter) and professional tools such as Lightroom and photoshop, there’s no way to switch to Linux without needing to boot back to windows multiple times per day.

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      I guess it depends on your use case. I haven’t owned a Windows PC since 2016. Linux all the way for me. The games I play run on it, the applications I need run on it, and it works well for me without tinkering getting in the way. I can even use it for work these days and I have far less VPN flakiness than both Windows and Mac colleagues.

      For my use case the year of the Linux desktop is here, and has been for a while.

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    • Plasma is more similar to Windows
    • Plasma is more customizable
    • Plasma is just as beginner-friendly
    • Plasma has more features
    • Plasma is more actively developed
    • Plasma looks better

    Don’t get me wrong, Cinnamon is fine, but it gets recommended religiously to beginners for some reason. It just doesn’t make sense, so I will keep repeating this, not least to keep alive the ancient linux tradition of Desktop wars.

    Still, any Windows to Linux transition is a step forward and I support this, upvoted.

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      As someone who has extensively used both Cinnamon and Plasma: I find Plasma a lot less polished, by a huge margin. Not only do settings have unusual defaults and are located in places you wouldn’t expect, it also often has desktop-breaking bugs out of nowhere even in stable versions, and this has only gotten worse with Wayland. Even as someone who has been using Arch for years now, I still struggle with getting Plasma to not shit itself every once in a while.

      Cinnamon on the other hand does have a lot less features out of the box, but the few things it does, it does them well, and every setting is where a sane person would search for them.

      I would not recommend Plasma to a Linux beginner at all. It’s the kind of unpolished mess that would make anyone who doesn’t care enough about computers to just give up and go back to Windows.

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        Hm thanks for sharing your experience, it’s very different from mine though. Have you used Plasma recently (Version 6+) ? And have you used it on a distro where it came pre-packaged? In my (limited) experience any DE installed on Arch is janky out of the box.

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    Remember when Windows XP reached EoL the first time in 2009 and people abandoned it? Yeah, me neither, but I remember Microsoft groaning and extending some support for a few more years, until the final EoL in 2014. I expect the same to happen to 10.

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    The average user cares less about their OS being EoL, than that they have to learn a whole new OS that works “completely” different to what they are used to.

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      This just objectively isn’t true. The XP EOL date actually forced users hands. There WAS refresh cycle in 2014, the only reason it didn’t turn in to the uprising it is seemingly turned into, is because Microsoft kinda got lucky, and this refresh cycle purged Pentim 4-s and Celeron M-s and Pentium D-s, and old Athlons, all of which were ewaste from new.

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    Mine was when they have windows 8 out for free for a limited time. Then I wasn’t able to go back to 7 somehow. Was already into linux by then. That just made me commit 100%. Gamer, CAD user, but still haven’t looked back.

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    I finally switched when I got truly familiar with the terminal in collage and then I happened to get a hand down pc to play around with. Installed Linux on it, and it surprisingly quickly became my main computer, especially once I got it a proper graphics card.

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    The Steam Deck and it’s desktop mode is why I decided to try jumping head first into a single boot of Bazzite on my main computer, it’s basically like using a Steam deck, just across four monitors, a year in and I haven’t looked back.

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    Oh is this an excuse to hop on the Mint praise train? Don’t mind if I do!

    For me it was smoother than windows to install, it runs much better moment to moment (it’s like the people that made it were worried about making nice software rather than the business goals being pushed by their managers), and most importantly the fact that it is the “beginner” distro doesn’t compromise its capabilities. I am in the terminal all day every day and I use the machine to work on software for embedded Linux systems.

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      Mint was so easy to install. I’m pretty new to Linux. Not afraid of having to do things in the terminal, but I don’t really know many commands yet. So, I appreciate the graphical managers for updates and drivers. You can definitely tell they really worked to make a polished OS. And I really like Cinnamon. It’s a very clean looking DE that has been super easy to transition to from Windows.

      Unlike Kubuntu, I didn’t have to do any tricks or install anything from github to get stuff from my Steam library to work, everything just worked. And Kubuntu (or perhaps just Wayland) would crash upon waking my PC from sleep and wouldn’t recover.