Gets it in one.

There’s a reason everyone is currently demonizing liberal ideology instead of standing up for the rights that the conservatives are working to strip away.

They are not. Neo-liberalism is a plague on the moderate liberal centrist voters that we should be appealing to and educating instead of painting them all with the broad-stroke brush of “enemy.” The majority of liberal voters are left-aligned on social issues, and we should be appealing to that.

Correct, and this is the real issue I am identifying when I point to this anti-liberal discourse as of late.

Most of your common liberal voters are not in support of the things we are fighting against. They are poorly educated and mislead, and continuing to paint them as the enemy is making the problem worse and giving the far-right more power. “You’re either with us or against us” mentality isn’t conductive to genuinely solving socio-political problems.

Fuck libertarians and neo-liberalism. They are not liberals, nor the centrists I was pointing to in my earlier post.

This.

The ramp up of anti-liberal propaganda around here is concerning. If the enemy is the right, why are we targeting the centrists?

As many others here said, the struggle of making ends meet right now doesn’t take precedence over the safety of others. Nothing about this drivers situation necessitates being a genuine threat to others on the road. Besides, I’d suspect that whatever service he works for doesn’t care enough to fire him over your report. Likeliest case, nothing comes from it until multiple reports, and even then it’s probably a slap on the wrist. Even if consistent behaviour leads to him being let go, he just swaps to a different, underpaid crime of a service.

And consider, what is the best and worst case for choosing to say something or do nothing? Best case scenario for speaking up, either a verbal reprimand or being forced to swap to a different company results in him reconsidering the way he drives. Worst case, it forces him out of the business altogether and he’s off the road. Meanwhile, if you choose to do nothing, the best case is he continues to drive without issue, and the worst case is someone literally dies.

Describe Trumps presidency in one sentence.

Sounds like shooting itself in the foot.

That this post was made in good faith. The way conversation between the left, the right, and the centrist voters is either dishonest, or shows a horrible misunderstanding of common opinion. If it is the latter, I am wrong about the good faith bit, hence the “I hope I am wrong,” though I am not happy about either outcome.

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies.

From Wikipedia.

The comment I am responding to never denied that there is an influx of tankies here. Instead you said I shouldn’t be surprised to find leftists here, inferring that leftists are tankies. Being authoritarian and manipulating information to manipulate people is not a leftist value.

You can disagree with me all you want. I’ll respect that. I would appreciate if you had better respect than to treat me like I am insane and my statements make no sense just because you disagree.

That is not my experience. I hope I am the one who is wrong.

Authoritarian manipulation is not a leftist value.

Don’t conflate my concern in speaking out against discourse like as “seething and coping.” My goal is to call out attempts to divide and other people for what it is.

And here I thought statements of lemmy.ml being overrun with tankies were exaggurated. Boy your deconstruction of my post sure showed me!

This is a bad faith meme that represents anyone making any form of compromise as a rude, close-minded, genocide supporter, posted by an account that frequently posts pro-China, sometimes pro-Russia propaganda, and hops between Western country-focused lemmy’s pending election cycles.

Just making sure the context for this post is visible.

This is not how I have understood the criticisms being thrown around Lemmy lately, but I appreciate the perspective. Even so, I’m not sure I can agree that the best solution to dealing with the right is to fight the centrists first, but I can at least appreciate your point in the specific context of the current two-party system.

I wouldn’t know. I’m not an American, and not a card-carrying liberal voter on my country.

What I do know is that this constant othering is how these problems were created in the first place. Spending time and energy building straw men on the Internet is creating enemies, not allies. If you are genuinely dedicated to spreading information and awareness, as your earlier post suggests, making assumptions and jumping down people’s throats is hurting your cause, not helping it.

We are currently in the process of creating a larger divide in left-minded individuals, and I am unbelievably sick of it. As the right rapidly unifys, we seem to be learning nothing.

Thank you.

Real sick of this argument right now. Just letting the right win because the left-most party is too willing to compromise isn’t a moral victory.

Everyone always talks like defeating Trump in the election is the end-all be-all of the disussion. Voting Democrat and preventing Trump from taking the white house should have been an obvious step. It is not the best outcome for the election, nor is it the end of the ongoing decay of late-stage capitalism into wealth-based fascism, but all this whataboutism and strawmanning Democrat voters as believing Kamala was going to single-handedly save democracy is disingenous. It was never “Plan A”. It was one minor, marginally better compromise in the collective of shit we should be doing.

Everyone just scrollin’ past this post.

Grats!

Calling Warcraft Rumble an RTS is like putting a hamburger patty on a plate and calling it a steak. You’re technically correct, but you’ve also completely missed the point in what people want.

Fuck no. Is this a real question? You think you could come up with away of living that would meet a 99% approval rating? We can’t even get a 99% approval rating on thoughts like “education is good” and “killing people is bad”.